Divisive topics have not disappeared. We have pro- and anti-vaccinationists, environmentalists and oil lovers…
Since when do we refer to the two sides of any dispute as divisive? These are topics that need to be discussed, with the Estonian political system developed not to give anyone everything they want. We always have several parliamentary and government parties. It is called discussion.
Our skill at respectful debate has been hampered, and we know why. Misogynous statements have been made from on high that do not treat with where a person stands but what they are like physically. None of it facilitates a rapport and debate climate has admittedly been not what I like to see.
Is there hope we won’t get lost in our echo chambers?
There is. Meeting with children in schools, they understand what I’m saying.
With any dispute, it involves 5, 15 or at most 30 percent of society. The rest continue leading their lives and making entirely different agreements. The media makes it look like it is 50 percent on either side of the divide.
Every issue has its nuances and deserves discussion. It makes no sense to argue over whether the green turn will happen or not – it will happen no matter what. The most sensible thing to do in this situation is to see how we can retain recent economic volume by using green energy. And we need to move fast.
Criticism has concerned getting ahead of ourselves instead.
You need an excuse for not having made the necessary decisions for 5, 10 or 15 years.
We often make the mistake of thinking that 30 years of development in Estonia is just nature. We have been brought where we are. Our monetary system, tax system, education system, digital life, why not also our gene depository – all are things someone somewhere has decided. Compositions of the Riigikogu have voted for these things and Estonia has been led here. And failure to make decisions not only means we have been paying people for something they haven’t done – that cost is trifling. It means that everyone looking at an exorbitant electricity bill today has to pay for it. Poor management is expensive.
Are we in for a long, cold and lonely winter?
No, not necessarily. If we can make happen the projects that have been proposed – offshore wind farms, 500-megawatt pumped hydropower storage in Paldiski, with Eesti Energia adding at least 50-megawatts of corresponding capacity – we have what we need to realize what the Nordic Council of Ministers has said in terms of the Baltic Sea region being capable of generating enough green energy for itself and export.
Do you know what you will be doing a week from now on Wednesday? (The interview took place on Wednesday last week – ed.)
I have never worked while constantly thinking about what will happen next. Life and people have always brought me interesting offers. What I’ve said is that I would like to do good things with exciting people and exciting things with good people.
Do you see the need to intervene in everyday politics?
What constitutes that intervention? There are a lot of ways to influence politics which the average person doesn’t even construe as such. It seems to me I have been quite successful at nudging. Perhaps I will keep it up.