I think it is inappropriate to say that debating something is inappropriate. Human rights are protected by the constitution, Estonian law enforcement organs and a number of international organizations. One group that is not defending them is PACE. It is of no use to anyone.
We will have no levers with which to affect the organization if we leave.
True, but are we having an effect today? Were we able to affect processes when Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Georgia and Ukraine protested the recent decision? We were not. It is where we need to say: beg your pardon, but the rules of this club are not for us.
Citizens of PACE members have access to the European Court of Human Rights. Estonians have often made use of it – EKRE would be robbing them of the chance.
No court instance should tower above the Estonian judicial system. If we are not happy with the latter, by all means – let’s reform it, replace people or amend legislation. But to say that we cannot defend human rights through our own courts is embarrassing.
Is it sensible to lead Estonia into isolation? To leave PACE, be the only one to disagree regarding the European Stability Mechanism reform and now also the climate issue?
We are not alone when it comes to climate. There are two camps in Europe: climate doomsayers and toxic greens who would effectively want to put an end to the economy, and then there are parties like us who say that while nature conservation and environmental protection are very important things, they cannot affect climate. To destroy our current standard of living and the modern world over climate – in no way can we agree to that.
We are also alone when it comes to oil shale. The price is so high that we will have to follow others’ example whether we like it or not.
It is up to people to decide what to do and when. I agree that oil shale is too valuable to just burn. But as long as we cannot answer the question of how to ensure the lights stay on, we cannot just shut down our production capacities. It would be criminal. This means that we should concentrate on what comes after oil shale. Our position is clear: a fourth generation nuclear power plant. The technology should be ready for a switch in 10-15 years’ time.
Mart Helme said during this weekend’s EKRE council meeting that Tallinn University is a propaganda establishment sporting a nonexistent scientific level and should not share in R&D funding at all. Will you take away their funding?
It’s not that simple. Higher education financing works differently. We can increasingly see general education institutions becoming a platform for political ideology where our young people are brainwashed. It is the task of politicians to direct attention to the problem and tackle it.
That brainwashed institution has given your twin sister her doctorate. What does she have to say about it?
She also says there are a lot of red professors there.
How is your singing and dancing? Will you attend the Song and Dance Festival?
I have done neither in my life, but I plan to attend.
How do you feel about songs by Alo Mattiisen being left out of the repertoire this time?
I believe we are seeing a systematic ideological assault on the cultural and national identity of Estonians where everything that is noble, beautiful, good and characteristically Estonian is diluted, turned upside down or painted as something to be ashamed of. It is criminal. Traditions, myths and our heroes form a part of our national identity. Attempts to dismantle it constitute an attack on Estonianness! I hope people will sing these songs themselves.